There's no way in hell she'd have the socio-political background to lecture Professor X on how he apparently single-handedly screwed up mutant relations by using a weighted term like 'gifted' to describe a minority who'd been born different, and yet they've had her do that too.
I have to say, that works a lot better for me if we're meant to think she's just parroting Cable. Because I can entirely believe that when living in a wasteland eating rat-on-a-stick for every meal with only an orphaned child for company, Cable would hold lectures on political campaigning in between teaching her how to dress herself and fight off monsters. (One of the things I've always liked about him is he honestly believes that "you need to know the world before you can try to save it", it's been canon since practically his first appearance that he believes learning history and politics is just as vital as learning how to fight.)
To be fair, I've read literally none of these comics and I'm perfectly willing to believe you when you say they're awful but I think that's quite a charming character concept actually. That the only things she knows are either a) the complete basics, (how to eat, talk, make fire, defend herself) or b) advanced politics and strategy and all the in-between stuff like how to use computers, or talk to people or cook anything more complex than roasted rat is entirely alien to her.
Also I imagine a political education from Cable would be terrible because, as well meaning as he is, it would all be his opinions and what he thinks are important. So she'll know Cable's opinions on what the tax for timber exports should be but not who the actual president is. And, in any case, she'll have been taught that democracy is inefficient because it leads to people who aren't Cable the wrong people getting power.
I honestly don't understand why they don't want to tell that story, to be honest. And make it about Hope deciding what needs to be done about the new mutants. If we assume that she is basically following Cable's idea of what she should be doing but that his lessons aren't always applicable because he couldn't predict all her circumstances then she has to increasingly rely on her own gut and other people's advice. So it's about a girl who's spent all her life only hearing one opinion and only talking to one person (and a charismatic and overbearing one, at that) suddenly encountering a whole bunch of other influences and opinions and having to work out what her own view actually is and whether it's a betrayal of her dead father to disagree with him (because a) it's a nice extreme version of an actual human situation and b) it ties wonderfully into the ongoing schism plot which is about the x-men realising that they have different views from each other about what they should be doing and c) it sets her up as Cable's true successor as a free thinker and shows her earning the title of saviour he's burdened her with and d) leads automatically to bonding stories with the other new mutants which introduce them to the reader because you can tell the old x-23 raised as a weapon learning to be a person stuff and have her realise that to help them she has to be more affectionate than cable ever was with her or whatever).
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Date: 2011-11-16 11:38 am (UTC)I have to say, that works a lot better for me if we're meant to think she's just parroting Cable. Because I can entirely believe that when living in a wasteland eating rat-on-a-stick for every meal with only an orphaned child for company, Cable would hold lectures on political campaigning in between teaching her how to dress herself and fight off monsters. (One of the things I've always liked about him is he honestly believes that "you need to know the world before you can try to save it", it's been canon since practically his first appearance that he believes learning history and politics is just as vital as learning how to fight.)
To be fair, I've read literally none of these comics and I'm perfectly willing to believe you when you say they're awful but I think that's quite a charming character concept actually. That the only things she knows are either a) the complete basics, (how to eat, talk, make fire, defend herself) or b) advanced politics and strategy and all the in-between stuff like how to use computers, or talk to people or cook anything more complex than roasted rat is entirely alien to her.
Also I imagine a political education from Cable would be terrible because, as well meaning as he is, it would all be his opinions and what he thinks are important. So she'll know Cable's opinions on what the tax for timber exports should be but not who the actual president is. And, in any case, she'll have been taught that democracy is inefficient because it leads to
people who aren't Cablethe wrong people getting power.I honestly don't understand why they don't want to tell that story, to be honest. And make it about Hope deciding what needs to be done about the new mutants. If we assume that she is basically following Cable's idea of what she should be doing but that his lessons aren't always applicable because he couldn't predict all her circumstances then she has to increasingly rely on her own gut and other people's advice. So it's about a girl who's spent all her life only hearing one opinion and only talking to one person (and a charismatic and overbearing one, at that) suddenly encountering a whole bunch of other influences and opinions and having to work out what her own view actually is and whether it's a betrayal of her dead father to disagree with him (because a) it's a nice extreme version of an actual human situation and b) it ties wonderfully into the ongoing schism plot which is about the x-men realising that they have different views from each other about what they should be doing and c) it sets her up as Cable's true successor as a free thinker and shows her earning the title of saviour he's burdened her with and d) leads automatically to bonding stories with the other new mutants which introduce them to the reader because you can tell the old x-23 raised as a weapon learning to be a person stuff and have her realise that to help them she has to be more affectionate than cable ever was with her or whatever).