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...can anyone else believe this thing has made it to part 30 and is still going? Because I'm writing it, and even I'm not sure quite how that happened. o_O

Other parts: The original ficlets, Plot notes, Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6, Part 7, Part 8, Part 9, Part 10, Part 11, Part 12, Part 13, Part 14, Part 15, Part 16, Part 17, Part 18, Part 19, Part 20, Part 21, Part 22, Part 23, Part 24, Part 25, Part 26, Part 27, Part 28, Part 29, Side Story 1




There had been a time when Kurogane would have done anything for Tomoyo. He couldn’t quite place how long ago that was now; it seemed like someone else’s memory rather than his own

Like Souma, the day the world ended left him an orphan, but Tomoyo had found them both in the back when the Complexes were first in construction and seen potential in them, or taken pity on them, and had raised them herself through the worst years when the project was still young. As adults, they'd become her personal bodyguards, though she rarely needed either of them in that role. No-one in the Complex would ever have dreamed of hurting her. She was like a goddess to them, and the worshipped her as the one who had brought hope to this dying world.

There may well have been no-one else in the world who could have done it as well as she. So much had been lost, and in the aftermath so many more sacrifices had to be made just to keep the human race alive; by rights the rules which governed the new Complexes should have been doomed by controversy from the very beginning. It was here that Tomoyo came into her own. With eyes that shone with unshed tears she had told her people that there was no shame in mourning all that was lost, but the task was now theirs to look to the future. When she spoke, every harsh compromise they made became necessary beyond the slightest doubt, every supposedly inhuman measure justified in the name of the greater good. It was something that went beyond question. She would always do what was best for all of them, and her boundless wisdom and vision would be what they all looked to to lead them for as long as it took to repair the world once more.

She was exactly what the people needed.

Kurogane had dedicated his life to supporting that, but he wasn’t sure whether he’d ever taken real pride in it. It was just the job he did.

For a long time, he’d blamed his growing doubts on proximity.

As Tomoyo’s personal bodyguard, no-one saw more of her than he did. She may not have needed guarding, but she did need someone who could do whatever was necessary and who took orders directly from her, and Kurogane and Souma had been raised just for that role. No-one else could make you feel as important as she did. When she made her speeches to her people to tell them how completely essential the efforts of every man, woman and child was to the Complexes’ success, it was never just pretty words from her, it was something she honestly believed from the core of her being. One-on-one, the effect was even more overwhelming in its sincerity.

The upshot was that no-one ever argued with her. Her advisers and direct subordinates tried on rare occasion, but never won. They never seemed to mind either. Tomoyo would listen with the utmost sincerity to what they had to say, and she would listen the same way to any doubts they voiced, and then she would explain with words that no-one could ever question why her decision was the only possible decision that could be made.

There were a lot of those meetings over the years, with a lot of different representatives and committees, all the endless divisions that had been established to run their project, but none of whom were ever capable of making their most vital decisions without Tomoyo’s input. For Kurogane, always watching the proceedings from his place behind her chair, the performance had started getting old. It was like seeing a magician repeat the same magic trick every night to a captive audience that never tired of it. He never could figure out quite how it was done, but he couldn’t convince himself the magic was real either.

Wrapped in Tomoyo’s silver words, any atrocity could be justified. It became unquestionable that supplies that supported the young and healthy could not be wasted supporting the old and sick beyond their useful lifetimes, or that the people left scraping out a living in the deadlands could be so utterly forgotten and ignored. It had been her inspiration that had allowed the Complexes to be established so fast and prosper so well, but it also meant their future hinged on one person always being right.

To Kurogane, that didn’t seem right at all.

It wasn’t just proximity, it was distance too. As Tomoyo’s agent, Kurogane was one of very few who’s duties took him outside the safety of the Complex on occasion, and brought him into contact with the outsiders. They were unpleasant, desperate people with little sympathy to spare for their more fortunate counterparts on the inside. The Complex dwellers considered them barbaric, and Kurogane himself could rarely muster more than pity for them. But even limited contact with them proved one thing very clearly: they were still people. They had every bit as much right to survive as those on the inside did. The only difference was luck, and that kind of stark reality would have made anyone uneasy.

Tomoyo was endlessly sympathetic, but just as resolved. There would be no compromise, no quarter spared for those outside. It was for their own good. She would speak of them on occasion in her speeches to her people, of their less fortunate brothers and sisters, but in the world weaved by her words what the Complexes did was for the benefit of the future of the whole human race, the outsiders included, and the people inside the Complex went away with their consciences clear; the outsiders so rarely remembered in their thoughts that they might have belonged to a whole other world. It was just that little bit too easy.

Of course, there was no way anyone as perceptive as Tomoyo herself could have gone long without realising that something was bothering someone so close to her as Kurogane, and she could not possibly leave him to struggle with it on his own. Nor could any well meaning person last long when Tomoyo meant to extract an answer from them. She sat and listened with the serenest attention as he made the long and halting admission about his doubts, then she clasped both of her hands around one of his own and replied, “But of course you must question me if you ever fear my decisions may be wrong. I rely on all of my closest advisors to challenge me to justify the judgements I have made. If I can make you understand and agree, that is how we will know the path we are taking is correct.”

Kurogane couldn’t find it in himself to doubt she meant it. If she ever lied, she must have lied so convincingly that even she made herself believe it. She did rely on the people beneath her in every decision she made – that much was obvious. She depended on them to bring her news and information and to offer her their advice, but when it came to making the final decision it was always she who made it, and once her mind was made up nothing would ever make it change.

“What if she makes a mistake?” Kurogane asked Souma one day. It made him uneasy to bring it up out loud, but if anyone in the Complex should have understood, it was her. Souma had been as close to Tomoyo as he was, and must have seen as much of her magic as he. However, Souma took a very different view.

“It is because she’s never lead us wrong that the people trust her,” Souma countered. “Lady Tomoyo has done more for her people than anyone else has – than anyone else could. She has earned our faith in her a thousand times over. Why would you ever question that?”

“So that means she’s infallible?” Kurogane asked.

“She has never claimed any such thing,” said Souma, offended. “That is exactly why she depends on you and me to ensure she never fails. That is why she encourages you to argue with her. That is why she deserves our faith.”

Kurogane may have spent his life in the tutelage of a master wordsmith, but he never mastered the art himself. If anything, he developed a growing distrust for words over the years. There was nothing he could say to an argument like Souma’s.

Nonetheless, the doubts never abated. They weren’t idle concerns either. Just because he never won an argument with Tomoyo didn’t mean he stopped thinking about the ones he’d lost.

The cloning project was one of the worst ones.

As usual, Tomoyo’s logic was unassailable. “We can’t put all our efforts into merely surviving. Our world will not repair itself for us if we only wait. We must make an equal effort to improve ourselves – to prepare for new challenges which may lie ahead,” was how Tomoyo had put it, and like all her proclamations, no reasonable person could have argued.

By the very nature of its isolation the Complex was rendered more terrifically vulnerable than few but Tomoyo’s closest confidents and the scientists she tasked with analysing the danger had ever been allowed to discover. One major outbreak of disease could decimate the population before anything could be done to stop it. Even if a cure was found and it became safe for other Complexes to send aid, a whole valuable installation could be left empty for generations to come. There was no longer any question that suitable replacements might be found from the people of the deadlands – it had been far too many years since any of them had had any contact with civilisation. Every principle the Complex management had based itself on was intended to limit population growth to levels the scant areas the domes protected could support – there would be no one who could be spared to repopulate an empty Complex.

The supposed aim of the project was to create a way to build a population back up again as fast as possible. Humans would be engineered so that they would grow and learn many times faster than usual, so a whole new generation could make it to adulthood within the space of only a couple of years. It was far more than idle fantasy; the main principles behind the process had been discovered years ago. All that remained was to turn theory into practice and fine tune the result.

“There will be other applications too,” Tomoyo had said enthusiastically. “The processes we have developed to reclaim damaged land continue to improve. Plans to expand our Complex may be realised before the year is out. Before long, we will be able to move to entirely new sites to establish ourselves. Think how much faster we will be able to work if such a great limitation is removed.”

All of which only came down to a lot of very fancy words and justifications for human experimentation.

Even after he got his head around the rationale behind them (which was more like him and it declaring a ceasefire so it could be pushed to the back of his mind), Kurogane never did get used to that army of clones she was raising. He maybe could’ve dealt with the failure rate they were turning out – the way so many of them were born visibly broken, that moved like they were in a trance and looked at him with those soulless eyes and so often didn’t even live through their first year. What got him was the way they all looked exactly the same – that every pair of empty eyes that turned to stare right through him as he walked through their midst was the same pair, over and over again.

“Do they have to be made like that?” he asked her flat-out, when the project was in its second month.

“That too has its purpose,” Tomoyo told him regretfully. “If they aren’t able to act as control specimens for each other, we won’t know which variations to the method have been effective. Once we have perfected the process for these two, then we can move on the creating new complete genetic make-ups.”

The impeccable logic of it all didn’t make it any less creepy.

It wouldn’t have been nearly so bad if he hadn’t had to see them so often. The project was kept to one isolated wing – it was little more than rumour to the general population, even to most of Tomoyo’s staff. But few of them had jobs requiring them to be at her side as much as Kurogane’s did, and Tomoyo insisted on taking a personal interest in just about each and every batch. She was delivered an updated report on their progress every morning, her lips pursing sadly whenever she read of a new death. She found the time to see them in person a couple of times each week, her face lighting up with a fond smile which few of them ever figured out how to return as she walked through their midst, stopping to take a hand or stroke a head, to peer into their faces and see which were doing well. It was too easy to believe the clones recognised her too – when she came by, the ones who were most awake would turn to face her, like flowers following the sun. Kurogane didn’t know how she could tell them apart – whether it mattered to her which was which, but still she doted on them as if every one were her own beloved children. Children who would grow up in no more than a year or two, if they lived that long.

“Is it wise to get so attached?” he asked on another occasion.

“It’s the only way we can raise them,” she’d replied, her conviction, as ever, unshakable. “Who will love them if we do not? And how can we trust ourselves to remember that they are to be as human as we are, to work tirelessly to fix them, if we do not care for them?”
Kurogane thought it wasn’t much a case of fixing – that at last check, objectivity had more value than emotional connection when you were saving someone’s life, but there was no arguing with Tomoyo. To love them was to punish herself for every death she caused, and there was a justice to that – however discomforting – that he couldn’t help but see.

***

When the day came when news of a murder at a neighbouring Complex was brought to Tomoyo’s ears, she responded officially by expressing her deepest sympathies for the woman’s family and her hopes that the perpetrator would be caught and brought to justice. No-one expected what the investigation would really reveal.

The Flowright scandal was not the reason Kurogan left. It wasn’t even the last straw – it would be another two year and more after that before he finally made his fateful decision. Strictly speaking, it wasn’t even Tomoyo’s fault. She may have dictated the laws by which they lived, but the job of deciding how they were enforced so far away was one of few things she did leave to others.

Ashura Flowright was a madman. You could argue back and forth about whether it had been life in the Complex that had sent him that way, but the conclusion was inevitable, and so was his punishment. It was harder to be sure what one was supposed to feel about the plight of the two Flowright boys. Their case generated some real sympathy from the whispers that passed through the other residents. Others suggested the twins were probably just as insane as their father.

No matter how long he spent turning the matter around in his mind, Kurogane could never satisfy himself that the ruling should have been as black and white as it was presented. Evidence that the twins had played any accessory to the murder was shaky at best. The crime they were sentenced for was conspiracy to conceal their father’s deeds. Ashura Flowright – mad or otherwise – had risked everything to protect his children. They’d been raised knowing nothing but secrecy by a man who’d taken insane risks to protect them, and now they were being punished for not betraying their own father.

Kurogane didn’t know what the right way to deal with the situation would have been, but he was sure this wasn’t it. Tomoyo’s usual sympathy was as useless for comfort to him as it was to the Flowrights. The incident had genuinely saddened her, but condolences were all she could offer.

“I know how bad it feels to be required to stand useless while events like this pass, but it is not your part to interfere, nor mine,” she told him. “Haven’t you spoken before on how I cannot hope to govern every facet of my kingdom? The other Complexes must be able to deliver their own judgement according to our laws.”

It was strange to find himself wishing Tomoyo would interfere with a decision that wasn’t hers to make. But even if she had… “Would you have handled it the same way if it had happened here?”

“Kurogane, do you believe the twins did not deserve punishment?” Tomoyo asked, looking him directly in the eye. He didn’t have an answer.

“Put yourself in their position. Are you sure this is not just? Everything their father has done – good or ill – he has done for their benefit. He will receive judgement for what he did for them, and they will live always knowing that he was punished for their sake. Do you think they would accept that? Do you think they would prefer that their father shoulders the burden for what he did for them alone? This way, a limited sentence, may be the only way they have to ever feel they have made amends for what he endured on their account.”

“You think they should be grateful to be punished?” Kurogane felt physically ill. “You think they would have asked for this?”

“I believe,” said Tomoyo, “that the kindest thing we can do for them is not to ask them to make such a judgement. This way, they will not be forced to decide what they or their father do or not deserve. They may serve their sentence and return with the knowledge that they have atoned for any crime they have committed.”

“They won’t be back again,” said Kurogane. “Living or dead.”

“Even you cannot predict everything that may pass for them in the next two years,” Tomoyo replied. “Their fate is not yet decided. We can but wait and see.”

Kurogane did wait and see, though it was barely intentional. He didn’t even notice the day had come that marked the end of the Flowrights’ sentence until someone else reminded him of it; it had been so obvious to him that none of the Flowrights would be returning that he’d never bothered to mark it. In any case, it would have been something exceptional if even the twins had been able to time their return that exactly, and several months longer passed before he allowed himself to feel even the slightest empty vindication that his prediction had been correct. But it was hardly much of a victory when he knew that Tomoyo would never admit it even if he brought it to her attention, and for all he could actually prove of the matter, the twins might have had every intention of returning only to fall victim to any of the myriad dangers of the deadlands within a day’s travel of making it back. It was only in his own head that the clarity existed, the knowledge of just how repulsive the thought of returning to the Complexes must have become to anyone who’d seen so clearly what their laws could mean.

It still took him another couple of months after that to come to terms with just where that train of thought was leading him; by which point he must’ve been heading there steadily for years. There was no final trigger in the end, nothing beyond a slow build up of everything he’d never been able to stop himself thinking for so long. If even once he’d seen Tomoyo doubt herself – ask for reassurance, that might have been enough to change things, but she never did. Not even when faced with undeniable proof of what the rules of her Complexes had inspired good people to do had she ever expressed the slightest feeling of guilt – the least wish that maybe the world might have granted her the means to find a better way – even to her closest confidant.

It wasn’t even that she was wrong – god knew what was right in a world like this. He just couldn’t be the one to stand up and defend her anymore.

He’d meant to leave in secret, even if he was sure this was the one thing Tomoyo wouldn’t be able to talk him out of, it was still a conversation he didn’t need to have. Obtaining the supplies he’d need to survive even a few days outside gave him ample opportunity to rethink what he was doing, but he’d been careful to keep that hidden until the last minute too, or at least he’d thought he had.

It was probably more than bad luck that Souma caught up with him on the way out.

He hadn’t meant to kill her. The argument they had could never something have been resolved with words, not even by agreeing to disagree, so vehement was she that he was insane to consider leaving at all. She’d been the one to declare she’d stop him by force if she had to, and after that he hadn’t had much other choice, and he’d been too angry to think straight. He’d been aiming to disable – only she’d seen it coming and jumped in the wrong direction, and that part really had been just bad luck. Kurogane had been too mad and in too much of a hurry to go back and make for certain, but it should have been instantaneous. He hadn’t lost too much sleep over it in the years since, people died for worse reasons. At Her command, Souma had surely killed for worse.

The only thing that made the difference was that Souma had been his ally, had been there at his back to support him when no-one else had been, had known him since childhood. Relationships like that weren’t meant to end that way.

But after a betrayal like Kurogane’s, a fatality or two on the way out could only seal the matter. Once or twice in the years that followed the knowledge of what had happened had even been some kind of cold comfort. He was committed. There was no going back.

Date: 2008-06-13 12:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lorelei76.livejournal.com
Holy shit. Holy fucking shit. I...I have no words.

You are so goddamned amazing.

(30+ chapters and the only typo I've seen so far is this: "She was like a goddess to them, and the worshipped her...")

Date: 2008-06-20 07:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rallamajoop.livejournal.com
*grin* I think based on that reaction, I will deem this chapter a success.

(I'm sure that only means you've been missing all the other ones - unbetaed draft, remember? ^^; There've been typos all through it, probably many which no-one's even pointed out, but I'll worry about those details when I get to producing a finished copy.)

Date: 2008-06-13 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oozaru-angel.livejournal.com
*opens mouth and closes it again a few times* ...Oh... My... God...

...Kurogane-sama~! *glomps him* That was a wonderful backstory! I love him disagreeing with everything in a situation with that and leaving and it's awesome and YES! Even if you made him kill Souma.

Date: 2008-06-20 07:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rallamajoop.livejournal.com
I'll take that as a compliment. *g* I've been looking forward to getting to share Kurogane's backstory for ages now, and it's muchly gratifying to see it getting this kind of reaction. (Souma's death in that manner was one of those unfortunately necessary literary things. As if Kurogane didn't have enough to angst about already. >.>)

Date: 2008-06-20 07:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oozaru-angel.livejournal.com
I bet this is part of the story one of those things you're just itching to write, huh? (Between you and Fai and think Kurogane-sama has been given enough to angst about for a life time. Oh, I feel bad for loving it so.)

Date: 2008-06-13 01:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheloya.livejournal.com
..................................

Wow, Tomoyo is creeping me out and reminding me of the D in a very fierce way right now.

I think you really hit Kurogane's division on the head. He feels torn. Very nicely done, Joop-joop. ♥

Date: 2008-06-20 07:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rallamajoop.livejournal.com
D, huh? I wouldn't have drawn that parallel. She keeps reminding me of the surprise badguy from the end of Alan Moore's Watchmen comic, though that may have more to do with some of the scenes ahead...

I am glad, I was a little apprehensive I may have overlaboured the point in this chapter, but people do not seem to be minding if I have. ^__^

By the time he left, I think half of what bothered Kurogane was that he wasn't more torn over the idea of leaving. He would have had to be very sure to do something that drastic, but there wasn't a single person he could have made understand why he was going. Except maybe Fye, who he hadn't even met at that point.

Date: 2008-06-13 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wicked-liz.livejournal.com
SO MUCH AMAZING! ^__^

You've done a brilliant job with the Kurogane and Tomoyo dynamic. She's terrifying, but in a subtle way without her actually being scary. Which is worse. XD

Nothing is so bad as a 'ruler' who thinks themselves completely justified. The reader can honestly understand what she must be thinking, but it still amounts to a dictatorship, just with the illusion of a democracy - *__*

I do fear for Watanuki now, and especially the girls (Sakura's value just went up). I wonder if she'll simply arrest the rescue team and kick them out, or try to share her 'reasoning'.

Some edits:

A full-stop is missing at the end of the second sentence.

"that even she made herself believe it." (about the 10th paragraph, not counting lone sentences)

"it would be another two year and more after that" (At the paragraph where Kurogane reminisces about the Flowright case)


I know it's a draft, but considering you've reached 30 chapters (congrats!) how long do you think this will get? Just curious 8D

Date: 2008-06-20 08:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rallamajoop.livejournal.com
Thank you, thank you very much. ^___^

You've done a brilliant job with the Kurogane and Tomoyo dynamic. She's terrifying, but in a subtle way without her actually being scary. Which is worse. XD

And like so much else in this world, all I needed was a few points on the idea and the dynamic all just fell into place (once [livejournal.com profile] jaseroque had so kindly pointed out to me what I was missing about where Tomoyo was going to show up in this universe, that is). It's almost fallen out like a backwards version of what we see in the manga - there's still the conflict between their worldviews, only in this version, Kurogane's the one who decides he has to leave, and he might just be the one who was right all along...

You're dead right about how she's scary too - it's not so much something you'd notice in talking to her one on one so much as the overall feel of just how much she's capable of that makes her scary. Particularly since no-one but the narrator character seems to be capable of noticing.

I do fear for Watanuki now, and especially the girls (Sakura's value just went up). I wonder if she'll simply arrest the rescue team and kick them out, or try to share her 'reasoning'

More along the lines of the second option (Sakura's value is debatable considering that Tomoyo has at least two Sakura's of her own already). Believe me, throwing them all out is not nearly subtle enough for her.

awesomeness

Date: 2008-06-14 01:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silberfish.livejournal.com
Wow. WOW. I'm completely, absolutely with every fibre of my being impressed.
I'm following this story just for a short time and even though you already got me addicted to it (in that regard: thanks for the regular updates!!:)) I didn't get around commenting because I hadn't had time to write a comment I've actually thought through. I hope I'm able to form a coherent comment now;).

I already thought when reading the comments on the last chapter that 'bad' and 'evil' are quite ambiguous words, empty as long one doesn't define them. Seems like I've been right and Tomoyo has a different view on what's right and wrong. And I can completely picture that because she is an idealistic person (for the greater cause you have to sacrifice things). I think Kurogane is in between. He doesn't loose sight of the goal but accepts it taking longer to get there as long as less people are hurt. It's good to question yourself and others (and that's Kurogane. I've read one story where Fye thinks: Kurogane thinks too much).
I also really like the atmosphere of this story. Not in a comfortable kind of way but in a intense and…right kind of way. It has a dystopic feeling to it (do you know Orwell’s 1984? I’ve been reminded of it quite a lot, especially in this chapter. The sentence “If she ever lied, she must have lied so convincingly that even she made herself believe it.” was especially indicating.
In this story there isn’t any torture but an artificial rightness, a surface that is too smooth while you aren’t sure what’s wrong; and that may be even more gruesome.).
I’m so impressed by Tomoyo’s way with words and how you pulled that of. You are one of a great mind =). Of course the reader is on Kurogane’s side but Tomoyo is also quite convincing. It shows that you can justify nearly anything it you just have the right arguments.
The characters all are IC, I just have a slightly different interpretation of Fye. Up until the attack of the complex I missed the subtle indications that there is much more underneath the mask he wears. And maybe the fatality of Kurogane’s and Fye’s relationship since the are so much alike in the worse parts of their character that they drag exactly that out of each other. At least until they work out their issues. (Arigatomina wrote an interesting portrait of their relationship-Do you love?-).
Furthermore, I hope Watanuki and Doumeki have a good ending…because they had enough bad stuff happen to them. (And Watanuki is so sweet ).

And I want you to know that I love your writing style. Sometimes it reminds me of Terry Pratchett’s but it has more life to it. It’s brilliant.

And thank you for all this work you put into this. Did you ever think about writing an actual book? Because I would so buy it.=)

That’s all, sorry for the pile of words, I hadn’t intended for it to be so long…

Re: awesomeness

Date: 2008-06-20 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rallamajoop.livejournal.com
Thank you! I have done my best to keep up regular updates (give or take a few late chapters and a couple of months on hiatus) because I know there's no way I'll ever get this thing finished if I don't keep to a schedule of producing a good 2000 or so words a week. Plus, the feedback I get from people has been hugely helpful in keeping the enthusiasm for this story going.

I already thought when reading the comments on the last chapter that 'bad' and 'evil' are quite ambiguous words, empty as long one doesn't define them. Seems like I've been right and Tomoyo has a different view on what's right and wrong. And I can completely picture that because she is an idealistic person (for the greater cause you have to sacrifice things).

Very true. I (and others) have been calling her evil Tomoyo, but that's mostly a way of distinguishing her from the the canon Tomoyos we're familiar with. She's done a lot of very questionable things but nothing that's ever so definitely wrong that Kurogane's moral dilemma over whether she's right ever becomes as clear cut as he'd probably like it to be, and in a world like this there is the horrible possibility that everything she's doing really is what's necessary. What makes her scary is that she's in a position of such absolute power in this world, and there's nothing to stop her from using it any way she decides she needs to.

do you know Orwell’s 1984? I’ve been reminded of it quite a lot

I've heard of it, of course, never actually read it.

The characters all are IC, I just have a slightly different interpretation of Fye. Up until the attack of the complex I missed the subtle indications that there is much more underneath the mask he wears.

Well, since this is an AU the characters are all distinctly different in this world, and that's something I've been very conscious of since the start. The trick to still making them feel IC has been to make sure the way they've responded to the different situation they grew up in here is still consistent with their characters, if that makes sense. One of the interesting parts is that Fye is hiding a lot less (and what he is hiding is a lot less important) whereas Kurogane's hiding a lot more, so their relationship is based on almost the opposite footing to usual. With that in mind, it's almost more surprising their relationship wound up as similar to the canon version as it did.

I’m so impressed by Tomoyo’s way with words and how you pulled that of. You are one of a great mind =). Of course the reader is on Kurogane’s side but Tomoyo is also quite convincing. It shows that you can justify nearly anything it you just have the right arguments.

She is fascinating to write for. Right from the start she developed quite a distinct voice in my head, and even I'm kind of amazed by some of the things she comes out with to justify herself. Even I honestly don't know how she's going to play things until I get to writing them half the time.

And I want you to know that I love your writing style. Sometimes it reminds me of Terry Pratchett’s but it has more life to it. It’s brilliant.

I'm a huge fan of Terry Pratchett (I've even written a decent amount of Discworld fic) so that may not be a coincidence if I'm absorbing some of his style, but I will take it as a big compliment. ^_^

Did you ever think about writing an actual book? Because I would so buy it.=)

Thanks for the vote of confidence, it means a lot to hear that. Like most amateur writers, getting published is something I've always hoped I'll be able to do someday. One of the side benefits of writing Ghost Stories has been to prove to myself that I can write novel length fiction - but right now I've still got to finish it first.

That’s all, sorry for the pile of words, I hadn’t intended for it to be so long…

Not at all, I love long comments. If people are enjoying my work enough to have so much to say about it, I must be doing something right. ^_^

Date: 2008-06-16 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cat-i-th-adage.livejournal.com
...

Okay.

I didn't think anyone could write a Dark Tomoyo without cracking the pillars of the universe, but you did it.

Oh wait, this is an apocalypse fic. Even so. I am reminded of Kero's description of Clow Reed - "A real sweet guy, but there were problems with his personality."

Nicely done.

(Actually, my really big problem with the decision to exile the Flowrights is that it meant three highly trained workers left the Compound's complement. Not good for the Compound, ne? Unless they really thought the younger Flowrights were unstable and dangerous (maybe, but why let them come back after, then?), or the expulsion of the Flowrights meant someone's beloved older relative could stay a bit longer...)

Date: 2008-06-16 06:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cat-i-th-adage.livejournal.com
...
...

'Cause, you took all the traits that make her wonderful:
Tomoyo Sees All.
Tomoyo Is Always Right.
Tomoyo CARES.
and didn't even flip them over, just showed how they could make someone into a Very Scary Person.

Wow.

But still, the bit where Kurogane walked away from Tomoyo hurt.

Date: 2008-06-20 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rallamajoop.livejournal.com
Well put. That's what makes evil!Tomoyo work - she isn't so very far diverged from her canon incarnations. We've seen more than once how manipulative (if in a benevolent way) she can be when she thinks it's necessary, what with all the lies she told and all the traps she set in the Piffle world because she felt it was the best way to draw out the real badguy. It's a damn good thing she's always had good intentions, because when you stop and think about it for a minute it's pretty incredible what she gets away with.

Actually, my really big problem with the decision to exile the Flowrights is that it meant three highly trained workers left the Compound's complement. Not good for the Compound, ne?

No, but when you start letting people who've broken the law get light punishments because of their status or usefulness, then any attempt at keeping order is as good as over, and as as far as the Complex's law were concerned, they had broken some very important rules. Anyway, at least in theory, they should've been able to come back to the Complex after their sentence was up. (If they survived that long, that is.)

Date: 2008-06-22 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crown-celestial.livejournal.com
Oh wow. This chapter cleared up a lot of things - in a creepy sort of way.

I can almost see Tomoyo in her all-knowing way of believing 'for the greater good' and enforcing it to an idealistic extent. It's probably very frightening and disturbing for Kurogane, because he can actually see what's happening behind the scenes. The rest of the Complexes are probably unaware, or they have become so immersed in Tomoyo's ideas that they have become truths.

It's gotten to the point that this feels sci-fi-ish and dystopian. Have you read Lois Lowry's The Giver? The Complexes remind me of their society.

You are so awesome to have pulled this twist out. ^_^

Date: 2008-06-24 07:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rallamajoop.livejournal.com
Yeah, after spending so long setting up this mystery now I have a lot of explaining to do. There'll be a lot more to cover in the next chapter too, once I finally get it done.

The rest of the Complexes are probably unaware, or they have become so immersed in Tomoyo's ideas that they have become truths.

Unknown to Kurogane, I suspect that there are probably a few people here and there who have their own private doubts about Tomoyo, but they don't get publicly voiced either because they know that sort of opinion would be tantamount to blasphemy or because they're scared enough to worry that even if she's not perfect there's never going to be anyone better, and upsetting the status quo in that sort of environment is the worst thing they could do. Of course, similar reasoning would be part of the reason why Kurogane was so reluctant to draw any attention to what he was thinking, but unlike nearly everyone else living in that santised environment he actually had the skills he needed to make leaving a real option. That and a job that meant he had to spend so much time around Tomoyo that his doubts weren't something he could ignore.

It's gotten to the point that this feels sci-fi-ish and dystopian. Have you read Lois Lowry's The Giver? The Complexes remind me of their society.

Well, the Complexes are sci-fi-ish and dystopian, so. Never read that particular book, but protected cities in a post-apocalyptic wasteland are such a standard trope that they've probably shown up everywhere.

You are so awesome to have pulled this twist out. ^_^

Thank you, it's been planned for so long now and it's great to see the reaction it's gotten. ^_^

Date: 2008-07-21 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ldydragon7.livejournal.com
(Late comment as sadly I've fallen behind watching this story in the choas of moving)

I absolutly love this. (Though its so sad, esspecilly the part with Souma, that was painful) I loved Kurogane's questioning and doubts and his decision to leave. I also loved his understanding and certainty that the Flowrights would not return.

When Tomoyo appeared in the last chapter with the Sakura I got a very creepy vibe off of her. (As well as the thought that someone really needs to take her copy machine away. Oh Tomoyo I think you've made enough Sakuras now)

A 'dark' version of Tomoyo is very difficult to image but in this setting you really puled her off well. Im impresed. Someone who believes so utterly that what they are doing is all for the common good and that they have the best of intentions is perhaps the most dangerious kind of villian. She does not seam threatening at all but the possiblity of what she could do witht he absolute power she has makes me shudder.

I love how Kurogane and Tomoyo's relationship is like a distorted mirror image of canon.

*Scammpers off to read the rest*

Date: 2008-07-22 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rallamajoop.livejournal.com
(Aha, oh, tell me about it. I've been getting to find out what moving chaos can be like in all too much detail recently. But late feedback is still just as good!)

Oh Tomoyo I think you've made enough Sakuras now

And I'm not even certain whether she plans to make any more of them. >.> In theory she was only aiming for one to prove her experiment worked, but she wouldn't have much trouble coming up with excuses to make more if she wanted it.

Someone who believes so utterly that what they are doing is all for the common good and that they have the best of intentions is perhaps the most dangerious kind of villian. She does not seam threatening at all but the possiblity of what she could do witht he absolute power she has makes me shudder.

Just quoting this back because it is so spot-on true.

I love how Kurogane and Tomoyo's relationship is like a distorted mirror image of canon.

Heavily distorted - rather than her sending him away because his morals needed some perspective, it's him leaving because he can't deal with her ideas of what's right or wrong. But the parallels to regular canon are still very much there.

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