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rallamajoopHaven't read it and I'm not planning to. I'm already way more invested in the character than you really want to be when there's a movie adaptation in the works, and letting myself get attached to (or upset by) parts of a script that is very likely still three rounds of revisions, eight rounds of executive meddling and a few more rounds of final edits before we ever get to see the result can only be an exercise in frustration. That said, I would not be much of a fan if I could resist curiosity altogether, and there's at least one tidbit that's come out in the general details about the script that I am finding very promising indeed.
To wit, Blind Al is in the script.
One of my all time favourite supporting Deadpool characters - one of my favourite parts of one of one of my favourite runs in Deadpool's history is in the script.
You know those threads people post sometimes that are entirely full of different happydance macros? Well, I don't actually have enough macros handy to be able to throw one of those together in a hurry, but that would be a pretty good representation of my reaction to that news. Put it this way: given the choice between seeing Cable appear in the Deadpool movie or seeing Blind Al, I might just have chosen Blind Al.
This is all I wanted for Christmas.
That's basically all I sat down to say. But having got myself started the urge to waffle about what else I'd like to see from a Deadpool movie is a bit hard to resist - what can I say, I am a fan, and I have thoughts on the subject of what makes a good Deadpool story. Let alone what ought to make the Deadpool story, which is what a movie is generally out to stuff into two-hours-plus-or-minus-thirty-minutes of screentime.
On the one hand, Deadpool is not a character who I feel comes with a lot of truly sacred canon that absolutely cannot be messed with. I’m in what seems to be the minority in Deadpool fandom who not only really liked his role in Wolverine: Origins but doesn't see any problem with using it as a jumping-off point for his own movie – because seriously, how hard would it be to retcon in a few details about him having volunteered for guinea pig duty because of the cancer, show him pulling himself together after the big finale going whoa, what was that about?, and declare that his body has rejected all his new powers except the healing factor? It's not as though a few extra rounds of experimentation and mental tampering would be inconsistent with the bullshit he went through in the Weapon X program in comic canon, is what I'm saying here. He's the kind of character who's backstory is nearly always going to be much better suited to being told in flashback than tackled head on in the first act (which was actually one of my main complaints about the structure of the Wolverine movie too). (I gather from the rumour mill that they’re not actually planning to do any of that, but we’re not talking about stuff that will make or break the movie, and that’s most of my whole point.)
On the other hand, there is a lot of obvious stuff that you do need to have in a Deadpool movie, and a PG-13 rating is not particularly high up on that list.
Obviously I want to see him kicking arse, breaking the fourth wall, and driving his opponents batty with his inability to ever shut up. I think I'd be pretty disappointed if we didn't get a decent show of violence and gore, and at least one joke that I feel guilty about laughing at afterwards - everyone knows that's what Deadpool's all about. But more than that, I want at least one scene that makes me want to hug the guy, I want my heart ripped out and stomped on, and I want to see him cross lines even he wouldn't usually cross, screw up utterly and know he's screwed up, and face the fact he's broken in a way that doesn't ever get fixed, because that's what my favourite Deadpool stories do.
But at the end of all that, I still want him to be Deadpool - the guy who'll react like this to being faced by the ~haunting specture of everyone he's ever killed~.
(Okay skipping a bit here, when Pool gets talking you can expect to be there a while, so let
s cut to the conclusions.)
While I'm posting from the big T-Ray scene, here's Wade getting to respond to the good old “We Are Not So Different” speech the way we always want our heroes to, but so rarely get to see in action.
Finally, when he's done with all the above, I want there to be someone - in universe, without the benefit of audience perspective - who still thinks he's worth the effort.
I don't know how much of that I can actually expect to get out of the movie when it's made. I can't even say that's a clear, objective outline of what it needs to do to be good, because no matter how many essays I write on the subject, what makes a character work is always going to be one of those fundamentally subjective things.
But knowing that the script is being worked on by people who feel like Blind Al is a worthwhile addition is not a half bad start.
To wit, Blind Al is in the script.
One of my all time favourite supporting Deadpool characters - one of my favourite parts of one of one of my favourite runs in Deadpool's history is in the script.
You know those threads people post sometimes that are entirely full of different happydance macros? Well, I don't actually have enough macros handy to be able to throw one of those together in a hurry, but that would be a pretty good representation of my reaction to that news. Put it this way: given the choice between seeing Cable appear in the Deadpool movie or seeing Blind Al, I might just have chosen Blind Al.
This is all I wanted for Christmas.
That's basically all I sat down to say. But having got myself started the urge to waffle about what else I'd like to see from a Deadpool movie is a bit hard to resist - what can I say, I am a fan, and I have thoughts on the subject of what makes a good Deadpool story. Let alone what ought to make the Deadpool story, which is what a movie is generally out to stuff into two-hours-plus-or-minus-thirty-minutes of screentime.
On the one hand, Deadpool is not a character who I feel comes with a lot of truly sacred canon that absolutely cannot be messed with. I’m in what seems to be the minority in Deadpool fandom who not only really liked his role in Wolverine: Origins but doesn't see any problem with using it as a jumping-off point for his own movie – because seriously, how hard would it be to retcon in a few details about him having volunteered for guinea pig duty because of the cancer, show him pulling himself together after the big finale going whoa, what was that about?, and declare that his body has rejected all his new powers except the healing factor? It's not as though a few extra rounds of experimentation and mental tampering would be inconsistent with the bullshit he went through in the Weapon X program in comic canon, is what I'm saying here. He's the kind of character who's backstory is nearly always going to be much better suited to being told in flashback than tackled head on in the first act (which was actually one of my main complaints about the structure of the Wolverine movie too). (I gather from the rumour mill that they’re not actually planning to do any of that, but we’re not talking about stuff that will make or break the movie, and that’s most of my whole point.)
On the other hand, there is a lot of obvious stuff that you do need to have in a Deadpool movie, and a PG-13 rating is not particularly high up on that list.
Obviously I want to see him kicking arse, breaking the fourth wall, and driving his opponents batty with his inability to ever shut up. I think I'd be pretty disappointed if we didn't get a decent show of violence and gore, and at least one joke that I feel guilty about laughing at afterwards - everyone knows that's what Deadpool's all about. But more than that, I want at least one scene that makes me want to hug the guy, I want my heart ripped out and stomped on, and I want to see him cross lines even he wouldn't usually cross, screw up utterly and know he's screwed up, and face the fact he's broken in a way that doesn't ever get fixed, because that's what my favourite Deadpool stories do.
But at the end of all that, I still want him to be Deadpool - the guy who'll react like this to being faced by the ~haunting specture of everyone he's ever killed~.
(Okay skipping a bit here, when Pool gets talking you can expect to be there a while, so let
s cut to the conclusions.)
While I'm posting from the big T-Ray scene, here's Wade getting to respond to the good old “We Are Not So Different” speech the way we always want our heroes to, but so rarely get to see in action.
Finally, when he's done with all the above, I want there to be someone - in universe, without the benefit of audience perspective - who still thinks he's worth the effort.
I don't know how much of that I can actually expect to get out of the movie when it's made. I can't even say that's a clear, objective outline of what it needs to do to be good, because no matter how many essays I write on the subject, what makes a character work is always going to be one of those fundamentally subjective things.
But knowing that the script is being worked on by people who feel like Blind Al is a worthwhile addition is not a half bad start.
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Date: 2010-12-22 04:10 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-12-23 01:49 am (UTC)Still going to stick to resisting temptation to read it myself. Gonna be a looooong wait.
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Date: 2010-12-22 05:52 pm (UTC)Also, ditto to everything you said. <3
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Date: 2010-12-23 02:01 am (UTC)Also, ditto to everything you said. <3
We'll just have to hope the writers/directors/producers agree with us. *crosses fingers*
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Date: 2010-12-22 11:59 pm (UTC)no subject
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